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and let ryan be ryan. we say bring it on. let's look at the real paul ryan right here on "hardball." you're watching it. the place for politics. >>> i'm milissa. >>> welcome back to "hardball." conservatives swoon for congressman paul ryan when he was chosen for the republican ticket, but he's since played the classic role of second fiddle. moderating his positions on both fiscal and cultural issues to conform to romney's views. well, now that romney/ryan campaign is coming off a bit of a couple rough weeks there. some conservatives have just got the answer. simply let ryan be ryan. that was the advice they dished to "the new york times" today. but is that really the smart move, really? joan walsh is editor-at-large of salon and author of "what's the matter with white people." and eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize win be columnist from "the washington post." i think there are problems marrying paul ryan politically like his positions. isn't that the reason why romney kissed him, said good-bye, i like you
and let ryan be ryan. we say bring it on. let's look at the real paul ryan right here on "hardball." you're watching it. the place for politics. >>> i'm milissa. >>> welcome back to "hardball." conservatives swoon for congressman paul ryan when he was chosen for the republican ticket, but he's since played the classic role of second fiddle. moderating his positions on both fiscal and cultural issues to conform to romney's views. well, now that romney/ryan...
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congressman paul ryan as his nning mate. which the campaign came under critism,hey ed h t unleash the young conservative star, ryan. today comes news of romney/ryan infusion. the two will be spending more time together on the trail in the coming weeks. will this double act, duo, engizehe cpaig mil rer writes for "time" magazine. michael, you first. i was impressed when he picked a guy that showed guts, picked a conservative with a real agenda, a real word on the budt, tricky stuff like medicare chges and then he had his good speech. they both had good speeches together. and then he seemed to have a one-might stand with the guy and split. now he's back saying we're dang again, we're going to show up together. what's that about? >> remember that week when they rst came together, the word from the campaign, the press was bold >>was ld. >>waboick. the idea was, you bring ryan in and he -- you make mitt romney, who's never been conservative, golden boy into a movement leader, an ideological leader. >> but they didn't really dig i
congressman paul ryan as his nning mate. which the campaign came under critism,hey ed h t unleash the young conservative star, ryan. today comes news of romney/ryan infusion. the two will be spending more time together on the trail in the coming weeks. will this double act, duo, engizehe cpaig mil rer writes for "time" magazine. michael, you first. i was impressed when he picked a guy that showed guts, picked a conservative with a real agenda, a real word on the budt, tricky stuff...
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in the first interview romney and ryan gave after ryan joined the ticket, bob schieffer pointed out ryan budget plan, including his plan to voucherize, that's a great word, medicare, could be trouble for romney. let's listen. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this a election a referendum on barack obama. now some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i have put out, and that's the budget plan that we're going to run on. >> and again this sunday romney had to distance himself from ryan's positions and assert that he's the man at the top of the ticket. let's listen. >> the president's cutting $716 billion from current medicare. i disagree with that. i'd put those dollars back into medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number, 716. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself a
in the first interview romney and ryan gave after ryan joined the ticket, bob schieffer pointed out ryan budget plan, including his plan to voucherize, that's a great word, medicare, could be trouble for romney. let's listen. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this a election a referendum on barack obama. now some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i have put out,...
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so i do think that ryan thinks about it. my sense is that he wants to get out there and be more in front on this ticket. whether that creates tension, i don't know. there's no question that at one point, mitt romney and paul ryan really liked one another, and really thought they were going to gel. we have not seen that yet. and frankly, they need to do that in october if they're going to begin to turn this campaign around. >> is this important to you? do you see they have to look like they like each other? look like a duet. >> and i haven't seen anything that shows that they don't personally like each other. they seem to be getting together fine on the bus. >> i think they're two different people. there's one person, we all know the terms, conviction politician. that's ryan. nobody would ever call mitt romney a conviction politician, ever. they're not to be confused. anyway, thank you john nichols, and thank you, michael shere. when we return or when i return, let me finish with the democratic party's big opportunity to beco
so i do think that ryan thinks about it. my sense is that he wants to get out there and be more in front on this ticket. whether that creates tension, i don't know. there's no question that at one point, mitt romney and paul ryan really liked one another, and really thought they were going to gel. we have not seen that yet. and frankly, they need to do that in october if they're going to begin to turn this campaign around. >> is this important to you? do you see they have to look like...
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go ahead. >> ryan is setting himself up to be -- ryan is setting himself up here to be what he has always wanted to be win or lose. so the election doesn't determine ryan's fate. if romney loses, there's going to be a huge chorus for the republican party saying it was just that guy's fault. it's not our ideas, it's not -- >> whose fault? >> mitt romney's fault. >> that's what i think. john, you're ready for the nation, not a right win ger, but they won't say that ryan has too much weight on the ticket. they will say it didn't have enough ideological weight to win. >> i think you're right about that but i also think that paul ryan is worried about that issue. and, you know, paul ryan is a very ambitious political player. he's a nice guy, hard worker, very disciplined. i think much more disciplined than mitt romney. >> but he's up at 4:00 in the morning and does pushups. it's pretty amazing. >> and hundreds of them. while watch you rage against the machine. but is he a disciplined player with a political career track. i think he is worried about being in the bottom of a badly losing ticket.
go ahead. >> ryan is setting himself up to be -- ryan is setting himself up here to be what he has always wanted to be win or lose. so the election doesn't determine ryan's fate. if romney loses, there's going to be a huge chorus for the republican party saying it was just that guy's fault. it's not our ideas, it's not -- >> whose fault? >> mitt romney's fault. >> that's what i think. john, you're ready for the nation, not a right win ger, but they won't say that ryan...
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you have biden against ryan. what do you think? >> that's going to be a really clear contrast as well. joe biden has fighting for the middle class and for working families for his entire career for more than 30 years and paul ryan dismisses 30% of the country depending on the welfare state. >> joy, that's going to be a battle of generations. joe has been winning elections since he was 29 back in '72. and now he's out there against this guy that's the new kid on the block. how's it going to look? >> i think people are going to underestimate biden. there he is. he's going to do a gaffe and mess up. what you will see up there is a guy who can speak for his generation, older people, working class people. he can zero in on those folks and say, i know she can't afford to have a voucher and shop for her medicare and when he turns to paul ryan, explain to me how you voucherize the medicare, i don't care how much the media has built up ryan as this sort of genius, he's not going to be able to answer that and they are more boxed in. don't un
you have biden against ryan. what do you think? >> that's going to be a really clear contrast as well. joe biden has fighting for the middle class and for working families for his entire career for more than 30 years and paul ryan dismisses 30% of the country depending on the welfare state. >> joy, that's going to be a battle of generations. joe has been winning elections since he was 29 back in '72. and now he's out there against this guy that's the new kid on the block. how's it...
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romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in some ways i think this argument about 30% of the people being lazy, 47% of the people being lazy, goes against the idea of american exceptionalism. how can america be that exceptional if 50% of the country is lazy? we know that's not true. ame
romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the...
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today comes news of romney/ryan infusion. time together on the trail in the coming weeks will this double act, duo, enerzehe campaig michael sheerer writes for "time" magazine. michael, you first. i was impressed when he picd guy thawe ts picked a conservative with a real agenda, a real word on the budget, tricky stuff like medicare changes and then he had his good speech. they both had good speeches together. and thene seemed to have a one-might stand with the guy and split. now he'sack saying we're dating again, we'ring to show utogeer. rbeatk t ficameogether, t w from the campaign, the pss was bold. >> it was bold. >> it was a bold pick. the idea was, you bring ryan in and he -- you make mitt romney, who's never been conservative, golden boy into aovemt er iog lr. the issue of medicare, which is a very delicate dance for them, especially in states like florida. i think what they've seen the last few weeks is the story is now about mitt mney personally, and by bringing ryan back in, they turn it back, they're hoping, into s
today comes news of romney/ryan infusion. time together on the trail in the coming weeks will this double act, duo, enerzehe campaig michael sheerer writes for "time" magazine. michael, you first. i was impressed when he picd guy thawe ts picked a conservative with a real agenda, a real word on the budget, tricky stuff like medicare changes and then he had his good speech. they both had good speeches together. and thene seemed to have a one-might stand with the guy and split. now...
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yesterday paul ryan was grilled about it on, of all places, fox news. let's watch. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking -- we'll get to -- >> the cut in tax rates will lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is not the first time romney was challenged, or ryan, on the vagueness of the proposal. back in 1994 romney talked about a plan to tackle health care up in massachusetts. actually nationwide. but never explained what the cost would be, the cost of the program. his opponent in the race back then was ted kennedy memorably challenging him on that debate. let's watch how it's done. here is where you challenge a guy to come clean, especially when he can't do it. let's watch. >> they ought to have an opportunity to know. what is the cost of your program? >> i don't have a cost of my program. >> y
yesterday paul ryan was grilled about it on, of all places, fox news. let's watch. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking -- we'll get to -- >> the cut in tax rates will lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through...
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paul ryan, also a wisconsinite and a packers fan, agreed. >> i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs, and you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. i half think that these refs work part time for the obama administration and the budget office. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and pretend it didn't even happen. they're trying to pick the winners and losers, and they don't even do that very well. >> what a cheap exploitation of something people really care about. anyway, why are the anti-union guys like walker and ryan trying to get the unionized -- see the irony, refs back on the field? what bad speech writing. by the way, he was reading it off the lectern. he couldn't even remember it. >>> next, the story of chris christie and a reporter. the first one of the season anyway. at an event yesterday one reporter pressed christie on his state's full foreclosure laws, its policies. you know what came up next? >> do you have a follow-up question? >> who are you, by the way? >>
paul ryan, also a wisconsinite and a packers fan, agreed. >> i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs, and you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. i half think that these refs work part time for the obama administration and the budget office. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and pretend it didn't even happen. they're trying to pick the winners and losers, and they don't even do that very...
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he's not really a ryan publican ideologue convictio politician, but he put him on the ticket. isn't that the fundamental problem wi the guy? he wants to date these people through the election. he wants their support, but he doesn't want to be one of them. he doesn't want to marry them. is that true? >> yes. okchri i t hs a suit to ing the republican nominee given what the republican party currently is. and you could say that on a bunch of different levels. it's an evangelical party and he's a mormon. it's a southern and western -- southern and western party, he's a northeasterner. 's a populist party. he'sore or less an tablishmentarian. heanted say barack obama haileds coc arnd ainguy and so i know how to create jobs. and as soon as that fell away, as soon as people started to think that the economy was doing better, as soon as people started to think that this was about policies for the future and not just about a referendum on t past, he's found himself adrift in terms of what the message is he wants to hue to and he does feel as though this is a base election and he needs
he's not really a ryan publican ideologue convictio politician, but he put him on the ticket. isn't that the fundamental problem wi the guy? he wants to date these people through the election. he wants their support, but he doesn't want to be one of them. he doesn't want to marry them. is that true? >> yes. okchri i t hs a suit to ing the republican nominee given what the republican party currently is. and you could say that on a bunch of different levels. it's an evangelical party and...
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paul ryan also a wisconsinite and a packers fan agreed. >> i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs, d y knoat it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. i half think that these refs work part time for the obama administrationnd the budget office. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and protend it didn't even ppen nnerand losers, and they don't even do that very well. >> what a cheap exploitation of something people really care about. anyway, what are the anti-union guys like walker and ryan trying to get the refs back on the field. b sh writing. he was reading it off the lectern. >>> next the story of chris christie and a reporter. the first one of the season zwraen way. at oon event yesterday one reporter pressed christie on his state's full foreclosureaw itsci >> do you have a follow-up question? >> who who are you by the way? >> jim. >> from where? >> channel 7. i'm not sure that rings true. >> nt question. >> this is an urgent -- >> next questi. >> w wld you b i >> please. >> why wou
paul ryan also a wisconsinite and a packers fan agreed. >> i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs, d y knoat it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. i half think that these refs work part time for the obama administrationnd the budget office. they see a debt crisis and they just ignore and protend it didn't even ppen nnerand losers, and they don't even do that very well. >> what a cheap exploitation of...
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take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is not the first time romney was challenged or ryan on the vagueness of the proposal. back in 1994 romney talked about a plan to tackle health care up in massachusetts. actually nationwide. but never explain what had cost would be, the cost of the program. his opponent in the race back then was ted kennedy memorably challenging him on that debate. let's watch ou it's done. here is where you are challenge a guy to come clean, especially when he can't do it. let's watch. >> they ought to have an opportunity to know. what is the kotion of your program? >> i don't have a cost of my program. >> you don't have a cost. >> i'm sorry, i don't have the -- >> that's interesting. >> i don't have the congressional -- >> what will be the cost in terms of the tax incentives that you provide? what will be the impact of that on the budget? >> well, i do not know the specific number -- >> you don't know the costs. >> i think it's a wonderful idea to take it through piece by piece and -- >> that's what you have to do as a legislature. that's exactly what
take me too long to go through all the math. >> this is not the first time romney was challenged or ryan on the vagueness of the proposal. back in 1994 romney talked about a plan to tackle health care up in massachusetts. actually nationwide. but never explain what had cost would be, the cost of the program. his opponent in the race back then was ted kennedy memorably challenging him on that debate. let's watch ou it's done. here is where you are challenge a guy to come clean, especially...